World mind sports games 2008

Turneringer / World mind sports games 2008

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Jannik Member	# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 01:39 - Edited by: Jannik Så er der nyt omkring WMSG 2008 [url=http://www.worldbridge.org/competitions/Calendar/files/World MindSportsGames2007.pdf][/url]. Det lader til at der skal deltage 48 nationer i holdturneringen og i den individuelle turnering. Mens der er hele 64 par i parturneringen. Så mon ikke der kan blive plads til Danmark? Det rejser en række spørgsmål DGF skal tage stilling til. Hvordan udtages holdet? a) Styrkeliste b) Placering DM 2008 c) Udtagelsesturnering d) Udtagelseskomite Parturneringen a) Har vi et par der er stærkt nok? b) Kan sociale hensyn gå forud for styrken? Skal deltageren ved den individuelle turnering udtages ved a) Pointsystemet b) Stærkeste spiller Skal det koste point at deltage? En debat i denne tråd kunne måske hjælpe bestyrelsen til at træffe nogle fornuftige retningslinier.
Kasper Frederiksen Member	# Posted: 2 Oct 2007 19:17 Jeg syntes ikke vi skal blande VM-point fra DM2008 ind i udvælgelsen. VM-point systemet er ikke afbalanceret i forhold til at betale for andre end de to årlige turneringer: VM og IBC. Jeg tror heller ikke vi kan nå at stable et (velbesøgt) udtagelsesturnering på benene, husk at den skal ligge i en ferie og der har vi allerede DM og Amb. Cup. Jeg syntes i stedet det mest fair er at vælge de stærkest (europæisk rating) spillere blandt dem der ønsker at deltage. Mht. tilskud for omkostningerne så har DGF en tradition for kun at sponsorere juniorer. Men jeg mener godt vi kan give et mindre tilskud, måske bare rejsen, hvis kasse-beholdningen er til det.
Jannik Member	# Posted: 3 Oct 2007 00:44 Jeg mener ikke DGF skal begynde at bruge mange penge på at sende et hold afsted. (Det er fint at det er muligt at støtte en juniordeltagelse indimellem.) Ifølge sommerens AGM var det en forventning at der ville væøre en form for tilskud, men der var ikke klarhed over hvor meget. Den mest skrapede model var vist at opholdet var betalt. Jeg mener heller ikke vi skal blande pointsysstemet ind i deltagelsen ved par og hold turneringer, men hvis nu rejsen bliver betalt til den individuelle turnering kunne det virke rimeligt at inddrage den i pointsystemet.
Jannik Member	# Posted: 16 Nov 2007 00:09 Sakset fra det svenske forum: Dear Representative of the IGF Member Country, 22.Oct.2007 I am writing to officially announce to the IGF community the exciting news of the upcoming First World Mind Sports Games (WMSG) under the auspices of the International Mind Sports Association (IMSA), the China Card and Board Game Centre, and the General Association of International Sports Federations (GAISF). Along with four other mind sports - bridge, chess, draughts, and xiang-qi - go will be featured as a global mind sport event in the same venue as the 2008 Summer Olympics, from October 3 to October 18. An unprecedented, generous, support by the Chinese Ministry of Sports has been key in bringing this event to its realization, to which I am deeply grateful. As the President of IGF, the organization that will represent the go community, I wish to encourage and to invite your participation. In the next few months, a great deal of hard work will be required of us all to ensure the success of this event. At this time, many of the technical details are still under development; however, I will sketch out below the tentative, general, participatory rules to help your country get started with your preparation. * The top players will participate from each country, including professionals. There will be multiple medal items; under consideration are individual men and women, team men and women, mixed pair, and another individual open medal round restricted to amateurs only. * The teams will represent a country. However, to facilitate world wide participation, in special cases teams may be formed by several countries from a common region that has low Go population. * The cost of venue, equipment, support personnel, and room and board for players and officials will be borne by the organizers. * Individual member countries are asked to actively seek support from their national or regional communities for the travel expenditure of their participants. It is possible that, in special hardship cases, some or all of this support may be paid by the organizers and/or by IGF. I encourage you to seek dialogue with other mind sport organizations in your country to coordinate your fund-raising efforts. IGF will actively assist you by providing slide presentations about the game of Go and about WMSG; we will also send official letters of support where and when requested. In special cases, IGF officials may be dispatched if necessary. Please contact the general secretary of IGF, Ms. Shigeno Yuki for questions and to indicate your interest. Sincerely, IGF President Hiromu Okabe
Torben Member	# Posted: 8 Jan 2008 13:50 Så er der (via det svenske goforbund) mere nyt om "World Mind Sports Games 2008". Se nedenstående udklip samt pdf-filer. Kineserne betaler ophold, mens deltagerne eller deres forbund betaler flybilletter. Det ville være godt, hvis Danmark kunne stille med et 5-mandshold, som så også ville kunne spille individuelt. Jeg er interesseret i at deltage, selv om jeg selv skal betale flybillet. > Nytt meddelande från Tony Atkins, ordförande i europeiska goförbundet (EGF): > > Dear Members, > > I have been asked by several of you about the World Mind Sports Games > being > held in Beijing from 3rd - 16th October 2008. > > The EGF has no role in organising this event as it is being run by the > IGF as part of IMSA. We have and will help the IGF, if we can, and our > IGF directors have made several requests to the organisers to change > certain rules in our favour (eg originally it was max one event per person > and now it is two for amateurs), or to set the length and format of the > events. However any such requests and all organising information has to be > agreed with the Chinese organisers and this is difficult and takes time. > In addition any changes for the Pair Go event has to be negotiated with > the JPGA. > > On 3rd December last Yuki Shigeno, IGF General Secretary, sent an email > containing two pdfs (plan and Schedule_IGF), but from your questions I > think > many of you have not seen them. The promise is of still more up to date > and > accurate information to be sent to you during January. > > You can upload the pdfs from > http://www.eurogofed.org/igf/plan.pdf > http://www.eurogofed.org/igf/Schedule_IGF.pdf > > Basically it is up to each IGF member organisation to select its own team > and get them to China. Currently you have to find your own airfares or > flight sponsors, but one of the hopes is that the Chinese can find > flight sponsors for the Go events. A team can be of up to 18 players, I > think, but we expect many members will be only able to send 1 or 2 > players. > > By the way, there will be no seperate IAPGC this year and the KPMC will be > held later (probably November) to avoid a clash. > > I am sure there will be very more questions that you have but please be > patient and wait for the further information. Meanwhile start to select > your teams and find sponsors as there is only 9 months to go. > > Best Go Wishes > AJAx
Jannik Member	# Posted: 8 Jan 2008 18:49 Jeg vil også gerne deltage selvom det måtte indebære at jeg selv skal betale flybilletten. For andre interesserede koster det ca. 7000 med SAS direkte og ned til 5500-6000 med andre selskaber hvis man er mere flexibel med rejsetider og mellemlandinger. Jeg mener DGF må på banen med et forslag til hvordan vi udtager et hold, og gerne længe før DM.
Uffe Member	# Posted: 11 Jan 2008 09:42 Ja Jeg er sådan set også interesseret. Og jeg støtter også forslaget om at DGF skal på banen med detaljer for hvordan eventuelle kvalifikationsregler skal udfærdiges. og der må være en indflydelse på point givningen ved dm da der iflg. torben ikke bliver af amatør vm?! eller hvordan var det nu reglerne var?
Jannik Member	# Posted: 3 May 2008 17:53 Status Danmark har tilmeldt et hold til WMSG 2008 (det gik lidt stærkt da de havde rykket deadline) Holdet er tilmeldt lidt for stort i forhold til hvad jeg regner med. (6 i holdturneringen 5 i mænds individuel og 1 i open + 1 kvindelig holdleder) Foreløbigt har jeg sikre tilkendegivelser fra følgende: Hold: Thomas, Ulrik, Torben, Jannik, Uffe og Michael Mænd individuel: Ulrik, Torben, Jannik, Uffe og Michael Det lader så til der er en flybillet til en deltager i openturneringen, som DGF's bestyrelse skal finde ud af hvad vi gør med.